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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 14:00:00 PST
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #1182
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Wed, 2 Nov 94 Volume 94 : Issue 1182
Today's Topics:
Amateur Radio: Elmers List Info and Administrivia
Cloning the TM-732A - Thoughts ?
Farnsworth question
FCC new license processing time...
How good is 10 db 2 meter yagi?
Motorola Mitreks
Newsline #896
No License to Extra Leap?
Radiotelephone
Subject: W1AW steps on others?
test, please ignore
TPK-182
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 12:00:16 GMT
From: pschleck@gonix.com (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Subject: Amateur Radio: Elmers List Info and Administrivia
Posted-By: auto-faq 3.2.1.2
Archive-name: radio/ham-radio/elmers/admin
Revision: 1.10 10/30/94 22:07:48
Changes: Uniform Resource Locators (URL's) now used throughout
This administrivia file and the companion Amateur Radio Elmers Resource
Directory are intended for non-commercial distribution via Usenet. Any
other uses, please E-mail for permission.
[Special note: My E-mail addresses have changed, reflecting a move to
Greater Omaha Public Access Unix, which was motivated by a desire to
seek a stable site for the Elmers List for some time to come. See my
signature below for the new addresses. My old E-mail addresses, at the
University of Nebraska at Omaha, will probably work for the foreseeable
future, but are not guaranteed.]
In order to standardize the Internet resource notation used in this
Directory, I've decided to adopt Uniform Resource Locator (URL) format
throughout. In addition to being a straightforward, human-readable,
format for specifying File Transfer Protocol (FTP) archives, Gopher
and World-Wide Web (WWW) servers, and Usenet newsgroups, it is also
amenable to formatting as hypertext links in Hypertext Markup Language
(HTML). For example, users viewing this document at the Ohio State
World-Wide Web Server (see "How may I obtain the latest copy of the
Elmers List?" below) will see all URL's converted to hypertext links
on their WWW client. Rather than fumbling with the various
conventions of FTP, Gopher, WWW, and Usenet News software, the
document or directory referenced by a hypertext link is but one mouse-
click (or key-click) away.
Scott Ehrlich has graciously agreed to be a WWW Elmer and provide
further information about how to obtain and use WWW client software
such as Lynx and Mosaic (see his entry). While I'm happy to
incorporate the latest and most popular information-formatting
standards into the documents that I maintain, I really can't allow
myself to be dragged into the role of a WWW help-desk for all of the
Internet. Please understand this when I politely refer you to other
Elmers, easily-obtainable on-line documentation, or even local
expertise such as resident gurus, consultants, or help-desks at your
school, company, or information service provider.
I expect there to be a bit of controversy regarding my adoption of
this somewhat radical new standard, especially to many users who can't
or won't use WWW. Those users should be assured that I wouldn't have
adopted a standard unless it was easily human-readable by those
accessing this document as straight ASCII (which is one of the main
reasons why the entire Elmers list isn't HTML, MIME, MMDF, or
one of many other competing, mostly non-compatible, information
formats). The URL format is easily mapped into human FTP, Telnet,
Gopher, and Usenet News reader commands. For example:
ftp://ftp.cs.buffalo.edu/pub/ham-radio/README
Anonymous FTP to ftp.cs.buffalo.edu and get the file README under
the /pub/ham-radio directory.
gopher://oes1.oes.ca.gov:5555/
Access the Gopher root page at oes1.oes.ca.gov via non-standard port
5555 (if the standard Gopher port of 70 was used, the ":5555" part
would be replaced by ":70" or most likely not appear at all).
telnet://callsign.cs.buffalo.edu:2000/
Initiate a Telnet (remote terminal) session with
callsign.cs.buffalo.edu via non-standard port 2000 (if the standard
Telnet port of 23 was used, the ":2000" part would be replaced by
":23" or most likely not appear at all).
news:rec.radio.info
Access the rec.radio.info newsgroup on your Usenet newsreader from
your local news server.
URL's that start with:
http:
Are only accessible via WWW client software (which is why almost all
http: URL's in this directory also have corresponding ftp: or gopher:
URL's).
For more information about URL formats, see:
http://www.cc.ukans.edu/lynx_help/URL_guide.html
ftp://nis.nsf.net/documents/rfc/rfc1630.txt
http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/Addressing/URL/URI_Overview.html
Disclaimer: While I have personally confirmed the accuracy of all
URL's through the Lynx WWW client, any referenced documents external
to this document are subject to future changes beyond my control. In
addition, with networks and their administration being what it is,
many services with up-to-date URL's may be temporarily unreachable.
Please consult with your local gurus, consulting staff, or help-desk
to confirm that it's a non-local problem, then ask the Elmer him or
herself (me in the case of URL's which appear outside of individual
entries). The currency and accuracy of URL's should be at least no
worse than that of the Elmers entries themselves (which are each
individually confirmed by me every 2 years, and updated within 1 month
on request of the Elmer).
A Brief Historical Overview:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If there is any one constant in the changing state of the communications
art, it is that "Hams" (Amateur Radio Operators) have always been on
the forefront of it. Rumors abound where the term "Ham" came from.
Some of the more amusing are described in the list of Frequently Asked
Questions for this newsgroup.
Regardless of origin of the name, a "Ham" is universally recognizable as
one who experiments in radio and communications.
Whether it be constructing a low-power CW radio with vacuum tubes, or
designing TCP/IP packet networks, such experimentation has historically
spilled over into the mainstream such as was the case with Howard
Armstrong, who developed the regenerative oscillator and FM radio, or
General Curtis LeMay (W6EZV) who was instrumental in making Single-
Sideband the communications standard for the Strategic Air Command
(1947-1992, now reorganized into a joint command called USSTRATCOM) and
eventually the U.S. Air Force. Although packet-switching techniques
originated from DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) and
the ARPANet, no one can deny the tremendous influence that amateurs
have had in demonstrating the viability of TCP/IP and AX.25
communications via radio links. The efforts of AMSAT (the Amateur
Satellite Corporation), including the development of many ham satellites
and the low-orbiting Microsats (communications satellites no bigger than
a breadbox that use store-and forward packet techniques), have certainly
advanced the state-of-the-art in communications, one of the defined
purposes of the Amateur Radio Service, as recognized by international
treaty.
Since in many cases hams are writing "the book", there is often no
"book" or other established reference for a beginner to refer to.
Traditionally, information has been passed on from ham to ham via word-
of-mouth. Like many of the traditional crafts, a variation of the
Master-Apprentice system has emerged, the Elmer-Novice relationship.
Called "Elmers" because they are usually older and wiser, having the
benefit of many years in the hobby, including several failed projects,
and an electric shock or two, they have traditionally been the mainstay
of amateur radio, and the source of many new hams, particularly those
interested in working on emerging technologies.
Even more importantly, Elmers provided an outlet for the impatient
newcomer who wanted "to know everything, and right away." Faced with
such a request, a good Elmer will smile and proceed to lead the novice
through some project or operating experience. Several hours, days, or
weeks later, the novice would have his answers, but would have earned
them. Even better, the sense of accomplishment would boost the novice's
confidence and nudge him or her down the road to being a model,
experienced ham operator.
Many present hams feel that such an experience is missing today. In
today's hustle-bustle world, the response to such natural curiosity and
desire to learn is, more often than not, "I'm too busy" or "RTFM." As a
result, the quality of new hams declines and the knowledge and operating
habits they develop in their first formative months and years leave much
to be desired. And the very same hams who claim that they "can't
understand the new generation" also, in almost the same breath, lament
about the "decline of amateur radio."
What is an Elmer today?
+++++++++++++++++++++++
An Elmer today is of any age, male or female, who has some expertise and
is willing to share it with beginners. Elmers don't even need to be
licensed amateurs, just people with knowledge in some area of
electronics or communications technology.
What is a Usenet Elmer?
+++++++++++++++++++++++
With the ever-widening scope of the Internet, and the amateur radio
newsgroups on Usenet, the potential for Elmers to share their
knowledge to a wide audience has never been greater. To that end, I
have started to maintain a list of such Elmers. Volunteers need only
send me their name, E-mail address, and area of expertise. I have set
up an administrivia mailbox for this purpose (elmers-request@
gonix.com, the default Reply-To: of this message).
Those desiring a more extensive list, or who need more specific
assistance, are encouraged to contact Rosalie White, WA1STO, Educational
Services Manager at the American Radio Relay League, 225 Main St.,
Newington, CT 06111 or via electronic mail addressed to
rwhite@arrl.org.
How may I obtain the latest copy of the Elmers List?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
There are currently 7 ways of obtaining the Elmers List. Any site
at least reachable by Internet E-mail can use options 3 or 4:
1. Usenet News: The latest copy of the list can be found in the
companion postings to this message, "Amateur Radio: Elmers Resource
Directory [A-M]" and "Amateur Radio Elmers Resource Directory [N-Z]."
Since the list is cross-posted to the following newsgroups:
news:rec.radio.amateur.misc
news:rec.radio.info
news:rec.answers
news:news.answers
on the 1st of each month, with an expiration date 6 weeks into the
future, there should always be a copy available at most news sites.
Check your newsreader documentation for information about reading
previously-read articles or articles that are "threaded" to this one.
Also complain to your local news administrator (E-mail to "news" or
"usenet" on your local host) if your local news server is configured
to ignore Expires headers (and thus prematurely delete the articles)
in worthwhile, mostly moderated, information newsgroups like those
listed above.
2. Anonymous FTP: If your site is directly connected to the Internet,
you may retrieve the latest copy via File Transfer Protocol (FTP) from
the following sites:
ftp://ftp.cs.buffalo.edu/pub/ham-radio/
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/radio/ham-radio/elmers/
3. Mailing-List: Since the list is cross-posted to rec.radio.info, the
latest copy may be obtained from the mailing-list gateway for that
newsgroup (along with many other informational articles about radio)
when it is published each month. To subscribe, send E-mail to:
listserv@ucsd.edu
and in the BODY (not the Subject) of the message, write:
subscribe radio-info
The server may not be able to determine your return address. In that
case write:
subscribe radio-info (your E-mail address)
You should get an acknowledgement very shortly.
4. Mail-Server: If you don't want to read through the entire gateway
of rec.radio.info, or want a copy of the list right away, send E-mail
to:
mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
and in the BODY (not the Subject) of the message, write:
send usenet/news.answers/radio/ham-radio/elmers/admin
send usenet/news.answers/radio/ham-radio/elmers/index
send usenet/news.answers/radio/ham-radio/elmers/list/a-m
send usenet/news.answers/radio/ham-radio/elmers/list/n-z
send usenet/news.answers/radio/ham-radio/elmers/diff
and the latest copy of the list should be sent to you E-mail within 24
hours (the mail-server uses batch priority to reduce system demand).
The last three services are experimental. I'm not terribly familiar
with them, and cannot offer much technical support regarding their use.
(I'd appreciate feedback on whether or not you find them useful,
though.)
5. Internet Gopher: The latest copy of the list should be available
from the following Gopher sites:
gopher://cc1.kuleuven.ac.be/
gopher://jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca/
gopher://gopher.univ-lyon1.fr/
gopher://ftp.win.tue.nl/
gopher://gopher.win.tue.nl/
see also news:comp.infosystems.gopher
6. World-Wide Web (WWW): The latest copy of the list should be available
from the following WWW site:
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/radio/ham-radio/elmers
The advantage of reading the Elmers list at this site via WWW client
software is that all URL's are converted to hypertext links.
see also:
news:comp.infosystems.www.misc
news:comp.infosystems.www.providers
news:comp.infosystems.www.users
7. Wide-Area Information Service (WAIS): The latest copy of the list
should be available from the WAIS server at:
wais://rtfm.mit.edu/usenet
see also news:comp.infosystems.wais
How may I contribute to the Elmers List?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
By using this resource, you are benefitting the net by obtaining
assistance in the fastest and most efficient way possible. By
volunteering to appear on this list, you are contributing to the good
reputation of the radio-related newsgroups.
Thanks to all the volunteer Elmers, as well as courteous list users, for
making this service a success.
--
73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU
pschleck@gonix.com (personal mail)
elmers-request@gonix.com (Elmers List administrivia)
------------------------------
Date: 2 Nov 94 13:40:26 EST
From: clmorgan@mumr2.mid.muohio.edu (Carl Morgan)
Subject: Cloning the TM-732A - Thoughts ?
Some time back, I inquired about cloning of the TM-732A transceivers. Many
of you responded, for which I am thankful, with excellent guidance and
information.
Finally, I got around to implimenting the function. To enable over-the-air
cloning, I had to "cut the green wire", thereby modifing the transceiver to
a "K2" model (originally a "K1").
The cloning now works. However, new issues have arisen and I'm hopeful that
there's insight on the NET that will be shared.
1. Cloning does not occur for the "call channel" or the
DTMF memory. All other functions, including "DT" and
"Page" do occur.
2. According to the modification information, this mod should
have increased the UHF TX range to 420-470MHz; mine will
RX 410-470 but TX only 438-450.
3. Also, acccording to the modification information, the VHF
TX would increase to 152MHz. After modification, my RX is
118-174 and TX 144-148.
The lack of TX outside the ham bands is not a problem. I would like, though,
to be able to get below 438MHz on the UHF band.
The real question is "What is going on?". Do I have the correct modification
information? Or is there something in error there? Anyone else do this and
are willing to share your results?
Looking forward to input.
73 >< Carl
K8NHE
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 14:21:56 GMT
From: jbloom@arrl.org (Jon Bloom (KE3Z))
Subject: Farnsworth question
Byon Garrabrant (byon@quicksilver.COM) wrote:
: Farnsworth question
[snip]
: Does a Fransworth speed of 13 wpm when giving a 5 wpm code test
: mean that the dits, dahs, and spaces between marks inside a character
: are set as if the test was a perfect 13 wpm test, and the other two
: spaces are set as if it were a 5 wpm test? Or, should the timing of
: the between letter spaces and the between word spaces be set as if
: giving a 2.5 wpm test such that the overall speed is 5 wpm?
The additional delay is added between the characters and the words. The
delays between the elements of a character are at the character sending
rate. In other words, for 5/13 Farnsworth, the delay between each
dot/dash within the character is (1.2 seconds)/13 = 92.3 milliseconds.
(That's also the length of each dot and 1/3 the length of each dash.)
The delay between characters is 1.443 seconds, and the delay between
words is 3.367 seconds. (These values are chosen to maintain the 7/3
ratio of word space to character space.) If you add all of that up for
the 31 dot/dash/element-space times, the 4 intercharacter times and the
one word-space time in "PARIS " you'll get a total of 12 seconds--a 5
wpm rate.
If you want the complete equations, see my article, "A Standard for
Morse Timing Using the Farnsworth Technique," April, 1990 QEX. (For
copies of QEX articles, contact lweinberg@arrl.org.)
--
Jon Bloom KE3Z jbloom@arrl.org
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 19:18:14 GMT
From: klg5646@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Gerling )
Subject: FCC new license processing time...
Well, for those who are awaiting arrival of their license, here's how
long it took for me to get mine.
Passed Exams: 9/20/94
License Effective: 10/24/94
License Received: 10/29/94
So that looks like 5 weeks and 4 days.
welp, i'm off to hit da repeaters.
-Freff
KB2SCB
------------------------------
Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:16:28 GMT
From: prvalko@saturn.acs.oakland.edu (prvalko)
Subject: How good is 10 db 2 meter yagi?
Simon Kwan (s_kwan@hk.super.net) wrote:
In comparison to what?
73 =paul= wb8zjl
------------------------------
Date: 2 Nov 94 09:09:25 EDT
From: landisj@drager.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Subject: Motorola Mitreks
In article <CyGCH1.JEL@news.Hawaii.Edu>, jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
> Someone was looking for Motorola Mitreks for 420 MHz - that same
> company, Tele-Path Corp., is selling Mocom 70's for $19 each
> in quantites of 5 or more; 450-470 MHz, CS, 4 freq., 25 Watts.
> I realize there's a bit of a difference between Mitreks and Mocoms
> but for $19 each, maybe you could compromise your requirements...
>
> How difficult is it to get channel elements for the ham bands for
> a Mocom? Will Jan or International make these? Are these elements
> xtals or more complicated than just an xtal?
>
> Jeff NH6IL
Hi Jeff, just wondering if you have a phone number and location for Tele-Path.
I have a source in CA, but unfortunatey, shipping a Mocom 70 across the country
by UPS will cost more than the radio! I am in PA.
And, at least for the VHF Mocoms, you really don't NEED channel elements, for
typical indoor, temperature controlled environments. Just order the xtals from
Jan, and insert them into the element sockets. Mocom elements only consist of a
xtal and a thermistor for temp comp. This is unlike a Micor's, which contain the
entire TCXO.
Moving the preselector around to get into the ham bands can be a #^%! though.
Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
landisj@drager.com - Ax25: AA3GN@WA3TSW.#EPA.PA.USA.NA - ampr: [44.80.8.153]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 22:11:30 GMT
From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Newsline #896
In article <CxxGD8.Ixt@array.com> mike@array.com (Mike Willett) writes:
>What does the bill passing "CONGRESS ACTS TO SUPPORT HAM RADIO"
>regarding "reasonable accomidations" mean to the average HAM?
It's a sense of Congress resolution. It doesn't mean much at all
since it doesn't require specific action by Federal or local
jurisdictions. There are no enforcement provisions, nor is any
money allocated. It's mainly symbolic. As a symbol, it says amateur
radio is a good thing (we knew that), and says reasonable accomodations
for amateur operation should be made. It doesn't, however, require
any *specific* actions by any governmental body. (IE it doesn't
overturn headset laws, zoning laws, restrictive covenants, or local
RF exposure limits)
It's a "feel good" measure that can be used as a moral bludgeon in
dealing with government restrictions on amateur operations. That's
a good thing. It may be helpful in arguing some court cases, and
it may be useful in stopping some excessive local legislation.
It is *not* a blanket authority to operate amateur radio contrary
to local laws or restrictions.
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
------------------------------
Date: 2 Nov 94 13:07:37 EST
From: clmorgan@mumr2.mid.muohio.edu (Carl Morgan)
Subject: No License to Extra Leap?
In article <CyJoDL.8sz@nntpa.cb.att.com>, dara@physics.att.com (Shel Darack) writes:
> Arthur Chandler (arthurc@crl.com) wrote:
> : Has there ever been anyone who walked into a licensing examination with
> : no license at all, passed everything, and walked out amateur extra? If
> : not, what's the biggest leap anyone has heard of? I took someone to an
> : exam site, and he went from Tech + to Advanced in one leap -- passed the
> : 13 wpm, general, advanced, and even the extra exam. Couldn't quite handle
> : the 20 wpm, however.
>
> Sure, some guy walked in and did the 20 wpm cw and theory exams
> through Advanced. It was getting late so they told him he would
> have to come back next time for the extra theory. Which he did.
> I was a VE at the session when he passed the theory.
> Shel
>
Sure seems sad, after THIS accomplishment, to tell him to "... come back next
time ...". I know folks have to get up to go to work, but I'd have been
inclined to stick around and let him earn Extra (or at least try).
73 >< Carl
K8NHE
Disclaimer ..... I mean this not as criticism merely an observation.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 23:41:36 GMT
From: wnewkirk@bb.iu.net (William E. Newkirk)
Subject: Radiotelephone
Abraham Stavsky (ag001@lafn.org) wrote:
: Anyone out there no what's involved in getting a radiotelephone
: license? Is CW necessary?
: Much obliged.
: Abe
get hold of the W5YI examiner group (advertise in CQ among other places)
they have a kit of stuff they sell that covers what you need to know to
pass the exams and what you can do with 'em.
finding an exam might be a little tough, but....
73, bill wb9ivr
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 21:58:55 GMT
From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Subject: W1AW steps on others?
In article <CyGKr8.94M@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> alanb@hpnmarb.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
>Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
>
>: Even bulletin stations are still subject to monitoring to see if the
>: frequency is in use before transmitting. ...
>: but both are in violation of the rules by failing to
>: respect existing QSOs on the frequencies where they fire up their broadcasts.
>
>Not true. While it is illegal to intentionally interfere with other
>transmissions, there is no legal requirement to listen before transmiting.
>If you disagree, then cite the regulation. (It doesn't exist.)
I believe this is covered under 97.101(a) and (d) in that good amateur
practice (mandated in (a)) involves listening before transmitting to
avoid (d).
>: (K1MAN operates under the same legislative loophole that the ARRL uses, and
>: lobbied to get, so his basic broadcasting is legal, if despicable.
>
>Any licensed amateur may "broadcast" code practice or information bulletins:
>
> 97.111 Authorized transmissions
> ...
> (b) ...
> (5) Transmissions necessary to assist persons learning, or
> improving proficiency in, the international Morse code; and
> (6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins.
>
>You may be thinking of the special regulations that affect paid operators:
>
> 97.113 Prohibited transmissions
> ...
> (b) No station shall transmit messages for hire or for material
> compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised. The control
> operator of a club station, however, may accept compensation for
> such periods of time during which the station is transmitting
> telegraphy practice or information bulletins provided that:
> (1) The station transmits the telegraphy practice and information
> bulletins for at least 40 hours per week;
> (2) The station schedules operations on all amateur MF and HF bands
> using reasonable measures to maximize coverage;
> (3) The schedule or normal operating times and frequencies is
> published at least 30 days in advance of the actual transmissions; and
> (4) The control operator does not accept any direct or indirect
> compensation for periods during which the station is transmitting
> any other material.
Actually, I was thinking of *both* of the above quoted sections.
Both were lobbied for by ARRL to support W1AW operations, though
of course they had to be worded so that all amateur stations meeting
the requirements are elegible.
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 16:02:17 -0800
From: mont@netcom.com (Mont Pierce)
Subject: test, please ignore
------------------------------
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Date: 2 Nov 1994 02:16:55 GMT
From: little@iamu.chi.dec.com (Todd Little)
References<1994Oct31.021040.1@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg> <n7ryw.32.00171C3C@teleport.com>, <1994Oct31.195548.844@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
Reply-To: little@iamu.chi.dec.com (Todd Little)
Subject: Re: Contacting the MIR. Help!
In article <1994Oct31.195548.844@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
|> The only time the crossed
|>dipole has the edge is in direct overhead passes. Those are relatively rare,
|>and the amount of time the sat is directly over any given spot is a very
|>short time compared to the total time you'll be in it's footprint.
In addition, when the bird is close to being directly overhead, it is also
as close as it is going to get, i.e. minimal path loss, so you don't need
as much gain. So as Gary suggests, an antenna with a closer to the horizon
pattern where you need the gain is a better bet.
73,
Todd
N9MWB
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Date: 28 Oct 1994 14:27:27 GMT
From: s2202629@np.ac.sg (Teh Aik Wen)
References<7512523109@infodude.com> <38m08o$gc8@sa-htn.sa-htn.valmet.com>, <gradyCyD6un.JJ0@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: PGP-Signatur in PACKET RADIO
In article <gradyCyD6un.JJ0@netcom.com>, Grady Ward <grady@netcom.com> wrote:
>The prohibition against codes and cipher refer to obscuring the meaning
>of a message, NOT authentication. Therefore using PGP to sign messages,
>even in ascii armor form (as long as the intent is not to obscure the
>message) is perfectly within the rules.
>
>Think of it like a packet framing checksum at the application layer.
I think ascii-armor signing should be avoided.
Basically, I would say, as long as you CLEARSIG your messages, you ought to
be safe...
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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 23:32:40 GMT
From: wnewkirk@bb.iu.net (William E. Newkirk)
References<Z88Uiq+.leevankoten@delphi.com> <38cdh2$2l2@mrnews.mro.dec.com>, <strongst.783374438@plhp145>
Subject: Re: ARRL to change "Silent Keys" label in QST?
i suspect that "lidness" is related to how routine a given ham is in his
operations.
people out doing something the same day after day may not react well to
a change in the routine...
bill wb9ivr
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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 22:17:46 GMT
From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
References<1994Oct30.015333.8357@lafn.org> <1994Oct30.104807.15685@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <390h8k$208d@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Israel Radio Traffic
In article <390h8k$208d@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> moritz@ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de () writes:
>How about OSCAR? It is not completely dead as yet..
LA to Israel? That's about 160 degrees of longitude. I don't know if
that's possible in Oscar 13's footprint. Maybe.
Gary
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